This week, Steve and Diana chat with none other than legendary musician and children’s performer, Fred Penner! Fred discusses his long and illustrious music career, which started helping troubled teens early on in his life and how two big mortality checks in his life drove him to search for his bliss. Plus, he explains how he’s survived the critics thanks to his wife’s wise words, ‘It’s none of your business.’

Fred introduces us to Winnipeg singer-songwriter and musician JP Hoe! Steve was mesmerized by JP’s ingenious video for his song, ‘Beautifully Crazy,’ and JP explains the importance of the Winnipeg arts scene, his holiday album and how he met Fred Penner over olives and soft cheese.

To learn more about Fred Penner, check out his website fredpenner.com or on Twitter and on Instagram.

To learn more about JP Hoe, check out his website at jphoe.com and check out the video for Beautifully Crazy or find it on Spotify. You can follow JP on Twitter and Instagram.